Here's a little disclaimer, personally i really loathe these intellectual debates and things cuase it sometimes gets too inpersonal and pretty ugly often....BUT its still essential as far as making a real choice through facts, not just blind faith soooooo
Hey guys, i was watching this debate with the guys from the way of the master and these two people from a group called RRS. Pastor Steve, I have a feeling you've seen it, cause i think i remember in the first eternity yo utalked about our eyes, and ray comfort said the same thing.
well anyway, they were arguing about the existence of God, and a counter arguement as far as creation needing a creator was that why cant the universe be constant? If God is eternal, why cant the universe just be eternal? Now, i read a thing that makes sense which is that what atheists believe is something complex, i think the n or m theory, where there's a multiverse, something larger then our universe, larger then what we can see. And in that multiverse, universes like ours are randomly created. But basically atheists just replace "God" with "universe". So really the question is intelligent design, we believe this world was built with a purpose in mind, atheists believe in pure chance and randomness. There is so much to prove intelligent design, but my problem is i dont see how we can use hte "painter painting" reasoning, if an atheist can just say the universe was constant, no creator. And the whole point of that debate was to prove God scientifically. It's hard for me to prove intelligent design scientfically, most of my reasoning is really just, well reasoning. It doesnt seem anywhere reasonable to me that this coudl all be chance, that the niagara falls, the mona lisa, pavrotti's singing, could all just be pure chance.
I know this is really really incoherent and hard to follow, but you guys can just watch the debate on youtube or somethning. My question to you all is to help me out with this intelligent design/universe being eternal issue so that if i'm asked by an atheist i would be prepared to answer rationally and reasonably.
Friday, October 3, 2008
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definitely man. keep yall in prayer ;]. good to hear how your syatp went. May God's will be done in both of our schools :];;
www.answersingenesis.com is a real helpful site.
Indeed, believing all this is due to random chance requires too much blind "faith."
i saw the debate as well~
u know sometimes you can present all the evidence in the world, but they still won't believe... think Dr Ravi Zacharias said it best,
"A man rejects God neither because of intellectual demands nor because of the scarcity of evidence. A man rejects God because of a moral resitance that refuses to admit his need for God."
keep the faith brother ;)
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